Spain – Astra 2E Reception

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  • #5763

    Nagusia
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    A few months ago I read something about the Inverto Black Ultra being a much better option than an Invacrom with Raven feedhorn on my 1.5m Gibertini. I didn’t think this was the case having tried both. Well, seeing as I haven’t been receiving much of a signal since the changeover I decided to give the IBU another go. I think it was a different one to that used before but in any case I am happy to report about a 1 db improvement on the signal strength. Encouraged by that I spent another hour carefully tweeking and the improvement was around another db on most TPs. The changes were pretty miniscule and by that I mean seeing the effect of tightening a bolt half a turn on one side or the other. The elevation adjustment seems particularly sensitive. Anyway, I now get 7.7 db on 10906V and 6.7 db on 10803H which are the TPs I use for alignment at 18.30 this afternoon. The result is being able to see absolutely everything – all SD and HD channels with a quality level of over 66% on the Foxsat. The secret seems to be running a power cable up to the roof and not having to rely on the batteries of the Satlook and hence having plenty of time to experiment and get things as right when conditions are so sensitive.

    #5944

    Anonymous

    I am interested in which size dish might be required where I am north of Velez Malaga?

    I have Sky+ HD so still receiving the Sky package and ITV/BBC via 27.5W but know that this is not going to last long, especially with all the ‘chatter’ on the internet regarding this.

    I would like to get back to everything on my Sky box, rather than the three systems I currently have.

    Therefore, it would really useful if anyone on the CDS can report for definite the dish size required.

    Thanks all.

    #5949

    Anonymous

    Hi Lee, The sky in Madrid website has a reception map that shows the areas of no reception (dead spots). Malaga city is almost on the line of no reception. This does not exactly answer your question but if you click on the map to the right you will see very few pins showing reception on the Costa Del Sol.

    #5973

    Anonymous

    Could anyone let me know if they still receive BTSport 1 & 2 in Southern Spain?

    I had them, but have recently moved. Now I don’t get them and am unsure if it is due to the big switch off or does my dish just need tweaking?

    Thanks

    #6095

    Anonymous

    Hi Gerry

    I live in Huelva close to the Portugese border and do not seem to be able to get any tv channels. I have a 1.2 dish. I recently streamed TV through my router, however my monthly usage was depleted within a few hours of tv watching. Is there any other way? I am having trouble finding a company who will do unlimited broadband.
    Appreciate any help you can offer.

    Teresa

    #6100

    GARYGOLFER
    Member

    Like most people on the Costa del Sol I have been looking at the options for the missing channels. Many sellers many choices and most overpriced. I put XMBC on a Laptop with Win7 – installed my addons and dont see what all the fuss is about – it just works. I also just used Firefox with a free bit of software, Mediahint (one of many options) to watch Eastenders from last week (sad I know) on BBC iPlayer. I then ran both concurrently over my internet connection and everything is fine. So hopefully I know what I am doing and everything is free! I struggle to understand why there is a monthly charge from most of the IPTV sellers down here. What are they charging for – its free?

    I have just heard that there is a local company rebroadcasting BBC1 etc from some transmitters based in the Marbella area. Evidently they are a sister company to one based in Costa Blanca who I believe is called Nortons? Apologies to them if its not them. Does anybody have any info and experience of their service in the Costa Blanca or indeed the Costa Del Sol. I guess they are similar to Filmon but transmitting locally.

    I have also looked into the Intelsat 907 situation and the encryption/decryption problems but think that might not be the best solution for me – but I never know! Not sure those BBC etc channels will ever return as they were. I thought we were in the EU and could watch anything!

    #6138

    Anonymous

    Hi Teresa,

    I live in an area that did not have very good internet service, no telifonica lines etc. The local government (Junta de Andalucia) supported the set up of businesses to provide good quality internet access by means of WiMax connections. You need to be in line of site of their repeater stations. I can see my companies mast (some 3Km away) and I get a good regular 6Mbits connection with unlimited data for about 44 Euros per month (IVA included). I am sure there must be similar companies in your area of Andalucia ( but not tomorrow as it is Dia de Andalucia).

    #6140

    Anonymous

    Hi GaryGolfer,

    Of course if you want it easy you have to pay for the service. I currently watch ITV player via my Humax box (free) , a bit clunky but it works, BBC IPlayer which is 100% better I need to use my VPN connection. In addition I have Filmon on an Android box which works perfectly well. None of these solutions will ever be as good or easy to operate as the Freesat or Sky Box systems. Although I have joined the IPTV solution, they will never (with current technology) compete with the Freesat or Sky platforms.

    #6227

    waggy
    Member

    hi guys back in the uk at the moment till weds met a tv guy at Malaga airport he was saying that he can give all sky Aljazeera plus many more via dish he says it would mean updating to a 1.90 metre dish and he also provides the box for a one off fee the box € 120 the dish around about € 800 that’s it ??????? cant get my head around where he would be picking up the signal from what do we all think by the way intelsat 907 signal back after new codes my budy by e-mail says pissing down here in derby but not as windy as nerja

    #6318

    TEO
    Member

    Hi,all.—an interesting “event” at 0725hr—BBC News dropped out and then slowly recovered ,with an overshoot,during five minutes.—signal quality went from 80% to 0 to 20-40-60-80-100 and then back to 80% !!—a “twitch” in satellite attitude due to thruster action ??–meteorites??

    #6430

    Anonymous

    Hi Nagusia,

    I live in Donostia. And as everyone else I’ve lost all bbc signal. I want to upgrade my system to receive them again.
    What size of dish should I have here in San Sebastian? And do you know of any company that I can rely on to do the job, as I wouldn’t be able to do it on my own.

    Milesker, thanks.

    Igaratik

    #6432

    Nagusia
    Member

    Hi Igaratik,
    To understand what’s happened, here is a really explanation of the situation: http://www.a516digital.com/2014/02/special-what-changed-in-european.html. In San Sebastian you should be okay with a 1.5m offset dish most of the time, although reception won’t be a good as before and you would lose reception on HD channels at some point in the day depending on rain. I don’t know if a 1.8m dish would fix that. Locally I don’t know of any company who would be of any use because we are talking about a serious heavy-duty installation. A 1.5m / 1.8m on a roof in strong wind needs a very solid mount probably involving construction work. If you have a garden then it is less of a problem. You would then need to get a decent satellite metre to be able to do the alignment yourself because an installer may or may not do a decent job but in any case, sooner or later the wind is going to knock the dish slightly out of line, which is now crucial with very little margin for error. Sorry to be so negative but I have thrown reasonable sums of money and loads of time at this – almost to the point of obsession!

    #6649

    TEO
    Member

    All 2E&F UK beam channels are at the same strength and unuseable—with a SNR of about 6db !!
    1000hr dry & sunny.16 deg.

    #6652

    TEO
    Member

    1200 hr—-now all 2E chs at 7db SNR –picture OK.—2F at 6+ still.

    #6892

    Anonymous

    Can anybody give me the latest on what is available to receive on a SKY+ and a SKY+HD box I live in La Herradura approximately 10K from Nerja on the Costa Del Sol.

    #6896

    GARYGOLFER
    Member

    I am about 6 miles from Gibraltar. I have a Sky+HD receiver with a full subscription and receive pretty much everything Sky transmits WITHOUT the old terrestrial channels BBC1,2 ITV etc. I have moved to receiving those channels via the Internet. Not wishing to publicise too much but I do sell the boxes required but I am sure there are people closer to you who could also help. You will need a an absolute minimum 2MB of bandwidth on your internet connection for this to work. The more the bandwidth the better. I currently get around 9MB. Thanks

    #6942

    Anonymous

    Hi GaryGolfer,

    Thank you for your info regarding the Sky+HD box. Would you have any info on the reception of a SKy+box, this is the system I have in Spain, but I do have a SKY+HD box in the UK both with a full package.Before I transport the SKY+HD box to Spain I would like to know if the SKY+ box works, I am not really worried about receiving the old terrestrial channels because I commute between Spain and the U.K.

    Thanks again,

    James

    #6946

    GARYGOLFER
    Member

    Hi James

    Basically if your Sky+ was working before then there is little or no difference to what you receive. So the answer is basically YES.

    GG

    #6947

    Anonymous

    Hi GARYGOLFER,
    thanks for that you have been a great help and the only person to have been of help since the big switch off, which took place whilst I was here in the U.K., I return to Spain in two weeks so I am hoping everything that works for you in San Roque will be ok in La Herradura, I wiil let you know the detail after I arrive.

    James.

    #7042

    Anonymous

    Who cares about the Tv recepción get on the beach hand enjoy
    The weather

    #7681

    Today I made an important ‘discovery’. I was asked to look at a 1.1m Tecatel offset dish in Los Alcazares, Murcia. It was fitted with a quad Inverto Black Ultra. Channel 5 and Channel4 HD 70% S 50% Q (Humax) No signal at all from Astra 2E. In as last ditch attempt I fitted a Gibertini feedhorn and Invacon C120 LNB. Looked a bit foolish on a 1.1m dish! Switched on sat meter and immediately got BBC 1 South. With a few minor adjustments pulled in all the SD channels except E4 & More 4. BBC South 80% S, 50-60% Q.

    This modification outperforms my Tecatel 1.4m dish/Black Ultra, a few hundred metres away. I am now going to try the same on this dish, but will probably need to make a shim as the f/D of this dish is 0.55, and the Gibertini feedhorn is stated is only good from 0.6 to 0.7 f/D

    So it appears possible to improve cheap, smaller sat dishes by fitting an offset feedhorn and C120 LNB. Once I have results on the 1.4m dish I will report.

    Time for a beer!

    #7682

    Anonymous

    Steve I used to use them on tecatel 1.37m in Spain
    When 2d went bad all those years ago and yes it
    Worked, but them Inverto black long necks came out and
    Out performed the c120 as as cheaper didn’t have to
    Use them anymore to the delight of the customer re
    Cost.
    Hope it works for you to save super sizing the dishes.

    [quote=7681]Today I made an important ‘discovery’. I was asked to look at a 1.1m Tecatel offset dish in Los Alcazares, Murcia. It was fitted with a quad Inverto Black Ultra. Channel 5 and Channel4 HD 70% S 50% Q (Humax) No signal at all from Astra 2E. In as last ditch attempt I fitted a Gibertini feedhorn and Invacon C120 LNB. Looked a bit foolish on a 1.1m dish! Switched on sat meter and immediately got BBC 1 South. With a few minor adjustments pulled in all the SD channels except E4 & More 4. BBC South 80% S, 50-60% Q.

    This modification outperforms my Tecatel 1.4m dish/Black Ultra, a few hundred metres away. I am now going to try the same on this dish, but will probably need to make a shim as the f/D of this dish is 0.55, and the Gibertini feedhorn is stated is only good from 0.6 to 0.7 f/D

    So it appears possible to improve cheap, smaller sat dishes by fitting an offset feedhorn and C120 LNB. Once I have results on the 1.4m dish I will report.

    Time for a beer!

    [/quote]

    #7691

    Villacasrosa – Do you mean the Inverto (white) IDLR-QUDL40-EXTND-OPP? The LNB I replaced was a black ultra IDLB-QUDL40-ULTRA-OPP. We both need quad LNB’s for the Humax HDR and Humax HD boxes. Steve

    #7719

    TEO
    Member

    A bad day for reception from 2E–all channels at less than 6db SNR since 1200 hr–no pictures–but 2F gives 7-8db ,so BBCnews HD is OK!! weather overcast.18 deg.

    #8109

    TEO
    Member

    All UK 2E channels now less than 5 db SNR during the day !! Pictures only visible very early morning with a max SNR of 6 db–not much use!!! Weather -cloudy-17 deg.

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