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  • #8159

    Steve ……
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    Yep….raining here too……now all gone here also…ITV SD was the last…….
    But….Isn’t QVC great 🙂 …a very underrated channel….. I’ve always thought……. currently showing a very nice ” Pearl Necklace “… 😆 ….

    The signal will recover…..no need to panic …just yet…..

    #8160

    Nagusia
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    That’s the spirit, Steve. Not a sausage here but is there anything worth watching tonight?

    #8161

    Derek
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    Hello guys, family returned to the UK so it’s back to business – only to confirm that signal here at it’s lowest level ever..!! For the moment, no problem – at 9pm, weakest channels had a CNR of 8.5db, strongest 10.5db.
    On the Humax, ITVHD was s70/q65, Ch4HD s70/q75, BBC4HD s75/q70, BBC1,2,3HD s70/q75.

    #8162

    Steve ……
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    Hi Nag…Nice to see you back on “robs”….yea your right.. nothing on tonight anyway…..

    10,15PM..ITV 1 SD london..back ..with sight interference 50Q (humax)…..the others should be back …soon…???…….

    #8164

    Alistair
    Member

    [quote=8161]Hello guys, family returned to the UK so it’s back to business – only to confirm that signal here at it’s lowest level ever
    [/quote]

    A bit off topic but I keep reading about SES intentions to tighten the footprint further, final aim no one will able to watch UK tv except northern France, can anyone categorically deny this is possible or they actually have this technology? I know about the difficulty of doing this without penalising UK residents, the cost of fuel when moving satellites and all that.. I’m asking if there’s some other way to drop the signal dramatically just outside the footprint.

    #8165

    Terry
    Member

    Total loss of all 2f since 1930 still no reception at 2310
    What’s going on ? All 2E channels ok both SD & HD

    #8167

    Terry
    Member

    UTV HD & UTV HD back and ch 5 set – still no reception on ITVHD or BBC NEWS HD at 2345 hrs

    #8183

    Phil
    Member

    Lowest levels I’ve ever seen on Astra 2e last night.

    This morning 07:10 my Astra 2f was stronger than 2e, which is not something I’ve witnessed before. BBC news HD and ITV HD working, but not BBC SD ???
    For example:
    Could get Ch4 HD but not SD?
    Could get BBC news HD but not BBC new SD??

    Not great news, this has been a somewhat disapointing week after last weeks fantastic reception levels.

    Watched Prey from ITV1 last night (a day late) simply using the sky box catch up service, easy peasy.
    Will watch Happy Valley tonight in HD using same catch up sky box function.

    It’ll just be like the 1990’s in spain when you could buy the newspaper from yesterday – we’ll all just be a day behind.
    BGT on a sunday, Antiques roadshow on a monday, no problem 🙂

    And I can install a nice little 60cm dish, plenty good enough for Sky package channels on european beam.

    Chin up everyone!!

    #8200

    Terry
    Member

    2000hrs all 2F transponders at around C/N 22 lowest I’ve had but still got picture. 2E HD & SD all ok at C/N 28 – 30!
    Anyone have a reason as to why such a drop in signal after the highs experienced last week ?

    #8216

    Anonymous

    Steve, pictures will follow – battery flat on camera yesterday, taking the day off tomorrow to try and resolve problems.

    Joe, my dish was sold as a 180 and has an instruction sheet (of sorts) claiming it to be 185, but actually only measures 170 wide as opposed to Gibby 150 being 150 wide. Is this similar to yours? I measured and marked the focal point last night and found that the LNB is actually pointing approximately 15 cms to the right of it – amazed I’m getting any signal! At least it explains why my azimuth is so far out. Daytime reception on BBC1 SD fails about 1630hrs daily but Sky News continues 24/7. With my Gibby I was getting daytime reception up until 1900hrs last week.

    #8217

    Twol
    Member

    [quote=8216]
    Joe, my dish was sold as a 180 and has an instruction sheet (of sorts) claiming it to be 185, but actually only measures 170 wide as opposed to Gibby 150 being 150 wide.
    [/quote]
    I seem to remember that the Gibby is elliptical (150 x ??)…. but as usual could be wrong (old age).

    I guess you have some engineering work to do on the 180 prior to alignment……… wouldn’t it be worth you guys in Munich getting together to buy a decent meter (or explore the world of E2 with a cheap 100 euro receiver) that could be used to accurately align? Perhaps a thought!

    Cannot wait for the up coming weather change to see if it makes any reception change …. always optimistic!

    #8226

    Steve ……
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    11,15am…..Just had a look at the signal……It looks like things are back to normal……fingers crossed……2E at 90-100Q….2F at 70-80Q (Humax)

    #8229

    Derek
    Member

    Ciao Steve,

    Also here, signal has climbed a bit since this morning and both 2E and 2F are 0,5 to 0,7 db higher than yesterday at midday – every little bit helps .. … ……. …. .. … ……!!!

    #8231

    Anonymous

    Hi Twol, the Gibby is eliptical – 150 x 167. Engineering work starting tomorrow morning. Luckily it’s ground mounted, I was getting fed up of clambering over the roof tops.

    #8268

    Joe
    Member

    Hi Richard
    How did you do that? 15 cm away for the focal point.
    How can I find that out. What do I have to do?
    Mine is meant to be 190×170. Haven’t measured it. My arms aren’t long enough.
    To get lower, I need to file away at the slide. Or I was thinking of turning it around. I.e my stop screw needs to be a push screw. Will have a look tomorrow. The meter is good. I just haven’t found the BBC yet. 2 weeks ago must have been pure luck and since moving off with the useless meter I have not found it again. When i find it. I will start the trim. Just can’t find a starting point.

    #8269

    Steve ……
    Member

    Joe…exactly what Richard posted……Is what I think is wrong with your Dish…..Hopefully we can adjust the arms… and get it sorted out tomorrow……

    #8279

    Phil
    Member

    Success again, bbc SD worked all evening!
    BBC HD went for about an hour or so.
    All Astra 2e SD ok, Astra 2f didn’t survive but that’s no problem.
    23:00 time now, signal increasing again.

    #8284

    Alistair
    Member

    [quote=8231]Hi Twol, the Gibby is eliptical – 150 x 167.[/quote]

    New “150” Gibs are actually 155×166, whether it’s always being like that I have no idea.

    #8307

    Anonymous

    Success, finally – I hope. After much pfaffing and 7 hours I managed to refocus my LNB I also switched to an Octo Best Germany 0,1 dB HDTV HD Ready HQDL 808 FullHD 1080p 3D LNB (what a mouthful), recommended by a work colleague. Last week I was getting strength 100% quality 50/60% on my faithful old Humax, now I have strength 90% quality 80%, so hopefully it will get me through the evening.

    Joe, I measured the centre of the dish by taking the mean of the distance between the bolt heads on the front of the dish and then used a rake handle through the LNB holder to roughly get the offset angle. In the attached photo the circle is the centre, the cross is the focal point and the cross within a circle is where my LNB was focused.

    Steve, the third photo shows the new position of the left (from the front of the dish) hand arm and distance.

    Good luck with the adjustments.

    #8312

    Steve ……
    Member

    Richard…..Cheers for the pic…great info…..nice one.. 🙂 ……

    The Best Germyny LNB…. I think…. is a rebadged Opticum Octo….a great LNB….

    I was at Joe’s place today …..we adjusted the arms….using a long bolt and washers to adjust the arms …..which…is basically the same as drilling new holes….(But I forgot to take pics )

    Anyway…we achieved 80Q on itv London..and 70Q on ch5 at about 12 ish….But i’m sure Joe will want to post himself about his dish improvements……..

    #8315

    Anonymous

    Totally offgepissed, lost everything at 1800hrs. What next?

    #8325

    Joe
    Member

    Hi Steve
    Here is a picture of the LNB with “special adjustments”
    You can also see in the corner the wall mounting support which I added in the afternoon. Seems I have moved the dish a bit and have lost some quality. It’s raining so I’ll wait.
    Thank you so much for your help.

    #8327

    Steve ……
    Member

    Joe…looks good….don’t worry about moving the dish slightly…..now its stable with your bracket….we can ultra fine-tune and try to improve the signal more…..let me know when you have your new Opticum LNB’s and switches…etc……Have you decided which Humax twin Recorder…your gonna get…?

    Also…..Did your signal survive the evening low period …?………

    Ps….My “Mrs” was very pleased with the Jar of your homemade honey…..thanks…
    Your Sky SD box….also lost signal in the evening low…. the same as my old Sky SD Box does……..I think I’ll need to buy another Humax for the guest room….

    #8333

    Terry
    Member

    I say this article which seems to give some explanation as to why reception is variable! Any comments?

    “It’s likely that the satellite has been the subject of “station keeping”, which can result in a slight movement of the beam. This happens every 4-6 weeks, resulting in loss of signal if the receiving dish is right at the margin of a viewable signal. All geostationary satellites need to be kept on station, which is achieved by firing tiny jets on the spacecraft.”

    Wish we knew when they do it!

    #8344

    Twol
    Member

    [quote=8333]I say this article which seems to give some explanation as to why reception is variable! Any comments?
    [/quote]

    As good as the others!

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