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31/05/2014 at 11:59 am #8824
OK. Got it. Thx31/05/2014 at 8:42 pm #8826
Gary D. I intend to respond about Outlook in a PM. It’s getting a bit off piste for “Windows v Linux”, which in turn is pretty off piste for a satellite forum! Hope you don’t mind.31/05/2014 at 9:34 pm #8827
Well I have done the deed and my laptop now dual boots both ubuntu and win7.
I am sure over the next few days I will install a few more apps on my ubuntu (just learning the words) system.
Just to confound all the other mainframe guys, my first applications were on punched cards on a Leo 11 machine (made for Lyons, which became ICT and then ICL and finally Fujitsu!), it was so big you could literally walk into it….big, very big mercury valves!01/06/2014 at 8:14 am #8828
Over the past months I’ve been running Linux in a virtual machine side-by-side with my Windows programs. See screenshot below for an example. In the background it shows the Ubuntu desktop sampling a few transponders using a TBS 5980, in the foreground on the right two Windows applications, displaying the performance of 11023H at my location. The bottom one is displaying the results of the Linux program. The top is showing performance using TBS 5922 using Windows 7.
The reason I’m using Linux is that the Linux driver reports the CNR in much finer intervals than the Windows driver, as can be seen by the blocky shape of the 5922 curve.01/06/2014 at 2:47 pm #8846
Hi Twol, you clearly win that one . . . . . . unless there is anyone from Bletchley on board.01/06/2014 at 6:32 pm #8851
Glad to know you’re up for something new.
If you’ve installed the Ubuntu default (14.04 I would imagine), you’ll be working with the Unity desktop Environment. That’s the one with the fixed left hand vertical panel (designed for ease of crossover on portable touchscreen devices). Be aware that you can download and mix and match other desktop environments if you’re not too keen on it. If you like it, read no further 🙂
For newer computers, a lot of people like the KDE desktop (in many ways similar to Windows). I favour the xfce desktop because it’s fairly light on resources and is 100% customisable – you can put your panels and icons wherever you like. All these different desktops are available via the Ubuntu Software Centre – usually as “meta packages”. I think the KDE one is called “kubuntu desktop” and xfce is “xfce-meta” – but if you do a search, it will be obvious.
By downloading them, you don’t change anything on your settings. The underlying systen is the same. To switch between them and try them out, you need to “log out” and then log back in after selecting a different desktop environment on the log in page. I’m not quite sure where this is on the Unity log in page, but just by messing around with the mouse, I’m sure you’ll find it. You can switch between these desktops as often as you like, and forever…..01/06/2014 at 8:13 pm #8853
For newer computers, a lot of people like the KDE desktop (in many ways similar to Windows). I favour the xfce desktop because itâ€™s fairly light on resources and is 100% customisable â€“ you can put your panels and icons wherever you like. All these different desktops are available via the Ubuntu Software Centre â€“ usually as â€œmeta packagesâ€. I think the KDE one is called â€œkubuntu desktopâ€ and xfce is â€œxfce-metaâ€ â€“ but if you do a search, it will be obvious.<br>
By downloading them, you donâ€™t change anything on your settings. The underlying systen is the same. To switch between them and try them out, you need to â€œlog outâ€ and then log back in after selecting a different desktop environment on the log in page. Iâ€™m not quite sure where this is on the Unity log in page, but just by messing around with the mouse, Iâ€™m sure youâ€™ll find it. You can switch between these desktops as often as you like, and foreverâ€¦..
Thanks Tim, already tried one desktop but will try your suggestions.
A basic question! My user has administrator authority but will not let copy files from my user download folder into a Ubuntu system folder … Any simple way other than using sudu coomands?01/06/2014 at 8:36 pm #8854
If you installed the system, you are both user and administrator (superuser in Linux-speak). But, by default, you are logged in as a user. This is to stop you doing dangerous things by mistake.
I’m not familiar with the Unity desktop because I’ve never really used it. Is there an entry on your main menu that says something like “file manager as root”.
Alternatively, you can open the file manager as superuser by typing “gksudo nautilus” in a terminal window. I think “nautilus” is the file manager for Unity (in xfce it’s (gk)sudo thunar – because the file manager is different).
This link may help:
In any case, just keep googling and someone will know.
This can be a bit tiresome, but it’s part of what makes linux so secure.
And be careful what you do as superuser – you could be one click away from disaster 🙂01/06/2014 at 8:56 pm #8857
PS: Found this on the Ubuntu forums. New to me too
“Install the “nautilus-gksu” package in Synaptic Package Manager. The next time you log in, you’ll be able to right-click any folder or file and choose “Open as Administrator”. “02/06/2014 at 10:30 am #8879
Thanks Tim, obviously I am in a steep learning curve!02/06/2014 at 10:37 am #8880
When you’re navigating round a new operating system, I think an analogy with doing the shopping works quite well. When you’re in an unfamiliar supermarket, you know they’ve got 99% of the stuff you want, and probably some other great stuff that you hadn’t thought of – You just don’t know where it bloody is!! 🙂04/06/2014 at 7:50 am #8938
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Hi Blast – got your message. I’ve been a bit busy with the garden and repointing recently so didn’t reply.
Twol – definitely been in the business far longer than me 🙂 Regarding trying out Linux for the first time, is it possible for you to run Linux in a virtual machine in Windows 7 as Ben has done?
From my experience with live web application servers, it makes life a lot easier being able to take a snaphot of your virtual machine before trying anything just in case you mess something up and need to restore the previous state ASAP!
This is what I have done with Android on my Windows 8 laptop as well.04/06/2014 at 5:46 pm #8950
Twol: Did you install Ubuntu alongside Windows with the Linux Grub bootloader, or did you use a Windows installer/bootloader.
In other words: When your computer first starts, do you get a list of options with Ubuntu as the first one and the word “GRUB” written prominently somewhere above it (and it defaults to Ubuntu), or….. do you get two options only with “Windows” then “Ubuntu” underneath (and this second version defaults to windows)???
default in the sense that, that’s what it chooses if you do nothing for 5/10 seconds?
Tim04/06/2014 at 8:20 pm #8969
TWol: sorry, that was probably over-explained… you obviously know what you’re doing…. no offence intended. Anyway, I was making my way towards dealing with Gary’s virtual box option…09/07/2014 at 1:35 pm #9924
Well I have a new desktop PCÂ (30 x 19 x 14cm) – a friend builds them into this really neat casing – and I can double boot into either Win7 (my old system copied over by Acronis) and a super new Ubuntu system.
Both boot off separate SSD’s, so are pretty fast – in fact everything is super fast.
… and I have almost taken over everything to the Ubuntu system, so running it as my main system … a bit like Windows one minute and DOS the next but I am learning! Even taken the 2GB email archive into Thunderbird! … but have to say going from Outlook to Thunderbird took a lot of reading until I was OK with doing the conversion. (used a windows app to archive and convert to eml)
Still adding app’s each day, but have printers, scanner and fax working – couldn’t find driver for the Canon scanner (but will try searching a bit harder).
So have email, all my satellite E2 receiver apps (some with Wine), PDF conversion tools, Firefox browser, Office apps etc running.
… and I was getting bored…. not now!
P.S. Tim, I can run off either boots (Windows or grub) by choosing the correct SSD in the Bios boot load…. and both will from there load either Windows or Ubuntu.
Kind of stupid, but having loaded up Ubuntu successfully for my friend’s new PC’s alongside a combination of different Window configs, when I did it on my new PC,Â I made a mistake and loaded the Grub over the Windows and in trying to recover (some Ubuntu tools are crap!) lost both fro about 2 hours — ended up with both on their respective SSD’s!!25/07/2014 at 10:43 am #10211
Hi Gary D
Having slagged off MS in general, Windows 8, and Windows RT in particular, a few weeks back (as amplified in a PM to you), you would now wish to note that the Blasts have purchased an MS Surface RT.
When the wifeâ€™s Toshiba AT300 Android tablet suddenly became totally demented, a replacement was needed. I couldnâ€™t help but note that the critics had changed their tune somewhat, when Microsoft slashed the price of the RT, apparently as a result of shedloads left unsold. They seemed to realise that, while it might have been an unmitigated disaster for those expecting a Windows PC in tablet form, it was actually a pretty good high-end tablet per se, now at a mid-range price.Â Â Not only that, but there are a number of great non-tablet like features, including the full size USB slot – giving external HDD/mouse/keyboard/etc. connectivity; proper printer connectivity; a â€œproperâ€ file explorer; and it retains access to a fair amount of the traditional Windows admin functions (e.g. â€œregeditâ€).
My wife wonâ€™t wish to run any Windows legacy software, but has full Outlook (where she gets access again to her years of history) and Excel (where she can again monitor the family fortune â€“ or lack of!) . . . . . . . AND I can do proper backups (all Toshiba Sent Items were lost). It is so much better than the Toshiba and the tiles are a hit. It is proving to be the beeâ€™s knees â€“ so far, fingers crossed.
Nothing like munching on a bit of humble pie Gary â€“ even Microsoft humble pie.05/08/2014 at 10:39 am #10388
Hi Blast – thanks for the PM.
Yes, I too went for a Surface RT after they dropped the prices. I like it quite a bit, and I have found that my wireless USB keyboard/mouse combination work well with it when needed.
I also bought the cheaper add on keyboard to act as a cover and for its mouse pad for those web sites that aren’t touch compatible which can get frustrating.
As I’m sure you know, if you get the latest Windows 8.1 update, it can auto-backup various things like passwords, favourites and documents to OneDrive. I’m finding this feature very useful as these settings are transferable between my laptop, tablet and Windows Phone.
MS are getting there – but very slowly…25/09/2014 at 8:36 am #10763
A propos of your recent posts, found this article interesting. Balanced and fair, I think.
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